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		<title>Comment on The Allegorical Tomato by Rick Ehrhart</title>
		<link>http://fractalrefraction.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/the-allegorical-tomato/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Ehrhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tasty tomatoes can be grown in a pot.  I have some Early Bird tomatoes in a pot and they are tasty.  Maybe part of savoring life is to work and enjoy the fruits of your labor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tasty tomatoes can be grown in a pot.  I have some Early Bird tomatoes in a pot and they are tasty.  Maybe part of savoring life is to work and enjoy the fruits of your labor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Essence by Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend you consider the viewpoint of maverick philosopher Spinoza.  He wasn&#039;t particularly keen on Descartes, or most of his predecessors.  It&#039;s hard to get down to the sound byte quality of Descartes, but basically Spinoza said that if a stone rolling down the hill had consciousness, it would believe it was rolling of its own free will.  If you&#039;ve been looking for a big name Determinism philosopher, Spinoza might be a good pick.

Victor Frankl is an interesting case.  I&#039;d never heard of him before!  Too many philosophy electives, not enough history.  Heroes are rare, and often uncelebrated.  Thanks for pointing him out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend you consider the viewpoint of maverick philosopher Spinoza.  He wasn&#8217;t particularly keen on Descartes, or most of his predecessors.  It&#8217;s hard to get down to the sound byte quality of Descartes, but basically Spinoza said that if a stone rolling down the hill had consciousness, it would believe it was rolling of its own free will.  If you&#8217;ve been looking for a big name Determinism philosopher, Spinoza might be a good pick.</p>
<p>Victor Frankl is an interesting case.  I&#8217;d never heard of him before!  Too many philosophy electives, not enough history.  Heroes are rare, and often uncelebrated.  Thanks for pointing him out!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Essence by m5</title>
		<link>http://fractalrefraction.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/essence/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>m5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It feels necessary to quote Decartes now: &quot;I think, therefore I am.&quot; :)

The results of the prison experiment don&#039;t surprise me. But this would be an apt time to bring up the oft mentioned example of Victor Frankl, who rose above his circumstances in a WWII concentration camp...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It feels necessary to quote Decartes now: &#8220;I think, therefore I am.&#8221; :)</p>
<p>The results of the prison experiment don&#8217;t surprise me. But this would be an apt time to bring up the oft mentioned example of Victor Frankl, who rose above his circumstances in a WWII concentration camp&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Expectation by m5</title>
		<link>http://fractalrefraction.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/expectation/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>m5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only taken a few free online tests. Wikipedia says that the official MBTI has 93 questions, and I haven&#039;t tried that one. It&#039;s noteworthy that &quot;[the MBTI ethical code] states that the person taking the indicator is always the best judge of what their preferences are and that the indicator alone should never be used to make this decision.&quot; So ultimately, the decision lies with you.

Maybe the pickup line should be &quot;What&#039;s your (personality) type?&quot; rather than &quot;What&#039;s your sign?&quot; these days :)  There are varying theories around personality and partners. One idea is that the most important axis to match is S/N. One variant of that theory is that S/N should match, and all other axes should be opposite. And another states that S/N and T/F should match, while I/E and P/J should complement. In short, there&#039;s no consensus.

Regarding P/J, I can say that some of the conflicts that come up between my mom and me are due to this opposition (she&#039;s a P, I&#039;m a J). For example, she likes to change her mind (return tickets, change hotels...) if she thinks something better has come up, whereas I prefer to be happy with what we&#039;d decided on prior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only taken a few free online tests. Wikipedia says that the official MBTI has 93 questions, and I haven&#8217;t tried that one. It&#8217;s noteworthy that &#8220;[the MBTI ethical code] states that the person taking the indicator is always the best judge of what their preferences are and that the indicator alone should never be used to make this decision.&#8221; So ultimately, the decision lies with you.</p>
<p>Maybe the pickup line should be &#8220;What&#8217;s your (personality) type?&#8221; rather than &#8220;What&#8217;s your sign?&#8221; these days :)  There are varying theories around personality and partners. One idea is that the most important axis to match is S/N. One variant of that theory is that S/N should match, and all other axes should be opposite. And another states that S/N and T/F should match, while I/E and P/J should complement. In short, there&#8217;s no consensus.</p>
<p>Regarding P/J, I can say that some of the conflicts that come up between my mom and me are due to this opposition (she&#8217;s a P, I&#8217;m a J). For example, she likes to change her mind (return tickets, change hotels&#8230;) if she thinks something better has come up, whereas I prefer to be happy with what we&#8217;d decided on prior.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Essence by Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You too can be a philosopher!  Just think.

Goethe spoke mostly in Kraut, but the gist of one of his philosophies is that your situation greatly influences your decisions, and your decisions determine who you really are.  His advice was to try to look at important situations out of their current context.  I think the metaphor he used was that you must face life &#039;naked&#039;.  I further believe he summarized this philosophy with a statement like &quot;Our whole trick is that we must give up existence in order to exist&quot;.  I can&#039;t tell you what book he said that in, but hopefully the Philosophy student Sam can add to what the sys admin Sam has to say (in a graduate student&#039;s copious spare time).  I did a web search for Goethe quotes, and I didn&#039;t find this sentiment in the first few hits.  It could be a fabrication, but I choose to believe it.

If you believe your situation determines who you are, you should really check out the social psychologists.  Their message isn&#039;t necessarily uplifting, but it&#039;s supported by observable evidence, and has predictive value.  Check out the URL from my first post if you think you&#039;d be into that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You too can be a philosopher!  Just think.</p>
<p>Goethe spoke mostly in Kraut, but the gist of one of his philosophies is that your situation greatly influences your decisions, and your decisions determine who you really are.  His advice was to try to look at important situations out of their current context.  I think the metaphor he used was that you must face life &#8216;naked&#8217;.  I further believe he summarized this philosophy with a statement like &#8220;Our whole trick is that we must give up existence in order to exist&#8221;.  I can&#8217;t tell you what book he said that in, but hopefully the Philosophy student Sam can add to what the sys admin Sam has to say (in a graduate student&#8217;s copious spare time).  I did a web search for Goethe quotes, and I didn&#8217;t find this sentiment in the first few hits.  It could be a fabrication, but I choose to believe it.</p>
<p>If you believe your situation determines who you are, you should really check out the social psychologists.  Their message isn&#8217;t necessarily uplifting, but it&#8217;s supported by observable evidence, and has predictive value.  Check out the URL from my first post if you think you&#8217;d be into that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Expectation by rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s so funny, i just had a conversation with a group tonight about myers briggs, and because i had read this entry, i brought up the point you made about how J is usually interpreted as judgmental, when it actually more means decisive. is there a test online that you&#039;ve taken, or is there an official one? i just took &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;, but don&#039;t know how it differs from the original test. my friend was telling us about how he hadn&#039;t understood a lot about the differences he had with his now-ex-girlfriend, but this test helped him realize a lot of things about their relationship. i&#039;m kind of curious as to whether it&#039;s better to match your partner in these types, or complement them. perhaps it is different for each category - but i would guess that at least for the P/J category, it is probably better to be in synch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s so funny, i just had a conversation with a group tonight about myers briggs, and because i had read this entry, i brought up the point you made about how J is usually interpreted as judgmental, when it actually more means decisive. is there a test online that you&#8217;ve taken, or is there an official one? i just took <a href="http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp" rel="nofollow">this one</a>, but don&#8217;t know how it differs from the original test. my friend was telling us about how he hadn&#8217;t understood a lot about the differences he had with his now-ex-girlfriend, but this test helped him realize a lot of things about their relationship. i&#8217;m kind of curious as to whether it&#8217;s better to match your partner in these types, or complement them. perhaps it is different for each category &#8211; but i would guess that at least for the P/J category, it is probably better to be in synch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Light by m5</title>
		<link>http://fractalrefraction.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/light/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>m5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the lovely affirmation, Miki! You are a beautiful inspiration yourself - following your dreams to offer your best to the world! I had an osteopath client the other day, and thought of you...

I do still think of the Bay Area as home... I&#039;ll definitely be in touch when I make it back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the lovely affirmation, Miki! You are a beautiful inspiration yourself &#8211; following your dreams to offer your best to the world! I had an osteopath client the other day, and thought of you&#8230;</p>
<p>I do still think of the Bay Area as home&#8230; I&#8217;ll definitely be in touch when I make it back!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Light by Miki Murakami</title>
		<link>http://fractalrefraction.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/light/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Miki Murakami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are one of the most brilliant stars I know, letting your heart decide what it is you want to do, and using your brain/wisdom to execute.  It&#039;s truly beautiful to see someone who is open to the cosmic energy up above, while remaining grounded about the reality we all share.

I really enjoy reading your updates. Please contact me if/when you come back to SF. I would love to see you!.

Love,
Miki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are one of the most brilliant stars I know, letting your heart decide what it is you want to do, and using your brain/wisdom to execute.  It&#8217;s truly beautiful to see someone who is open to the cosmic energy up above, while remaining grounded about the reality we all share.</p>
<p>I really enjoy reading your updates. Please contact me if/when you come back to SF. I would love to see you!.</p>
<p>Love,<br />
Miki</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Allegorical Tomato by m5</title>
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		<dc:creator>m5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there tends not to be much savoring of life in the U.S. Maybe that&#039;s why tasteless tomatoes are tolerated :)  I&#039;ve not had the pleasure of trying these dry farmed tomatoes of which you speak; it&#039;s on the list to try when I get back to the Bay!

I agree with the importance of the journey, and appreciating the present moment as it is. Also, I think for some people, it&#039;s not even that they have forgotten why they want the ends that they seek, but that they may never have even really asked themselves why they want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there tends not to be much savoring of life in the U.S. Maybe that&#8217;s why tasteless tomatoes are tolerated :)  I&#8217;ve not had the pleasure of trying these dry farmed tomatoes of which you speak; it&#8217;s on the list to try when I get back to the Bay!</p>
<p>I agree with the importance of the journey, and appreciating the present moment as it is. Also, I think for some people, it&#8217;s not even that they have forgotten why they want the ends that they seek, but that they may never have even really asked themselves why they want it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by m5</title>
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		<dc:creator>m5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, thanks for the cleverly humorous and worthy challenge! I would agree that using the &quot;There is no new thing under the sun&quot; reasoning as an excuse not to share whatever we can offer to the world would be a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, thanks for the cleverly humorous and worthy challenge! I would agree that using the &#8220;There is no new thing under the sun&#8221; reasoning as an excuse not to share whatever we can offer to the world would be a mistake.</p>
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